I am amazigh,i have white skin and blue eyes ,but i can tell you that not all berbers have white skin and blue/green eyes ,most of them look white mideteranians .
Hello! Thank you for your comment. It is obviously a traditional trait in some of the Amazigh people to have white skin and blue or green eyes, however the Amazigh are pan-ethnic and not just in Morocco- they are also in the Canary Islands, Algeria, Kabylia, and Mali, among other places. So lots of mixing is going on across a wide spectrum of places. Obviously not every Amazigh appears caucasian at first glance, but genetically they may all have caucasian genetics. Important to note!
Just so you know, the VANDALS, an ancient tribe of southern Scandinavian raiders that fought for years with the Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire, were eventually conquered by them and banished, whereupon many of the exiled fled and integrated with the Berbers. That would easily (and logically) explain the appearance of some Berbers which are incongruous with those of their fellow tribesmen.
In short: a small number of these "white" Berbers are actually of mixed Scandinavian ancestry. Ta-da! 'Mystery' solved.
Well, that's a very clean and neat explanation, except the Amazigh (they don't call themselves Berbers- they call themselves the Amazigh, you are culturally glomming the term that anthropologists refer to them as, better to call them what THEY call themselves) don't say they come from Scandinavians. I think your "mystery" would be solved if they said "Oh, we come from Scandinavia" instead of "Oh, we come from Atlantis". They say they come from Atlanteans. Last I checked, there's no myth of Atlantis within Scandinavian culture, so that doesn't make sense. Don't you think if the Scandinavians did show up there they would be telling the foreigners they were from Sweden before they mixed the races a bit? Also, why would THE VANDALS only be mixing with one tribe of people instead of everyone all over the region? Just one group who are isolated? Doesn't make sense. Scandinavian genetics would be shown all over the geographic region, not just with the Amazingh. *Indiginous* genetics means they come inherently from the region- not Scandinavia. Genetics tests would show this right away. Except the point of the post is that they are implying that Scandinavian genetics are not showing up on the tests as where the caucasian genes of origin come from. They've been genetically testing the Amazigh for years- this is the first I've ever heard of Crusaders making one distinct tribe in North Africa white. I think it would have been mentioned by now and in the articles I am finding online.
Ok, wait- I stand corrected in that they say some Amazigh do have Vandal blood- but that still doesn't explain why they say they are ancestors of Atlantis. And it still doesn't explain why they genetically are indigenous caucasian. This may be two separate ethic groups we are talking about with different genetics. Genetics tests will say where someone comes from...
You are correct. Some of the white Berbers are descendants of the Vandals but most are descendants of Nordic Europeans captured and taken to North Africa during the European slave trade known as the "Atlantic Jihad". Their phenotype is not native to North Africa at all.
Well now you've opened up MORE questions about alien ancestry here- this is fascinating, because the Saami creation myth says they are people from the stars who crashed their spaceship on earth and couldn't get back to where they came from- so this even makes the mystery deeper!!! http://saamiblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/prehistoric-genetic-link-of-amazigh-and.html The Saami, by the way, are genetically predisposed to be born without back molars- they by and large are missing the back four teeth. Hmmmmmm!!!
The Saami are "extreme genetic outliers" according to science: http://www.cell.com/ajhg/abstract/S0002-9297(07)61892-8?cc=y= This just gets weirder and weirder...
Hello the music video that you posted is not for the most part "berber" music but arabic in nature i can tell since i am a "Riffian" from the Fif region. I my self have very light skin almost pale but brown eyes and black hair some of my family members have blond hair grey eyes and some have red hair. And the arabs are trying to destroy our culture for so long now....Amazigh means "free people" some say we have a link with old gaelic families and with the sami people from norway as well as with Atlantis and the amazonians... Morocco has the largest amazigh population algeria the second which are called "kabyle" all are being harrashed and discriminated by the arab governed governments. Even our language which is called "Tafinagh" is pretty much alien check google for "amazigh writing or tafinagh writing". If you want i can send you real amazigh music...
Hello the music video that you posted is not for the most part "berber" music but arabic in nature i can tell since i am a "Riffian" from the Fif region. I my self have very light skin almost pale but brown eyes and black hair some of my family members have blond hair grey eyes and some have red hair. And the arabs are trying to destroy our culture for so long now....Amazigh means "free people" some say we have a link with old gaelic families and with the sami people from norway as well as with Atlantis and the amazonians... Morocco has the largest amazigh population algeria the second which are called "kabyle" all are being harrashed and discriminated by the arab governed governments. Even our language which is called "Tafinagh" is pretty much alien check google for "amazigh writing or tafinagh writing". If you want i can send you real amazigh music...
Hi, thanks! I would love to hear real amazigh music. If you want to post links here, you are more than welcome. Was trying to invoke a genetic memory in people by posting music. I know that sounds weird but there's a method to my madness. Stuff doesn't come from nowhere. Thanks for your info.
Just so you know, there was an incredibly beautiful collection on Youtube when I originally posted this of supposedly real amazigh music, but it kept getting taken down for copyright violations. It really was my favorite, but it seems to have disappeared. I keep trying to post the closest approximation but this apparently is not it. Sorry. I hope you can post something here soon. Thanks again.
Well it took me some time to find them since they are classical amazigh music which become harder and harder to find. Whatever you do listen with your emotions what do you sense when listening to them? Take notice of the females singing. There are many more variations within the amazigh music but these are good starters let me know if you liked them its important that you take your time maybe perhaps with a glass of wine:):
I can see you like the occult, esoteric information as well as other intel considered "conspiracy" well if you just knew...most of the information is as i have come to realize after almost 2 decades that these are "gatekeepers" and its not what you think. One of the greatest lies is space....beyond this planet there is only darkness and stars and the sun will have no light...since this reality is a construct but im ahead of my self. The reason why they calcify the pineal gland is not what it seems since the pineal gland is connected with water just as a child is born within water inside the mothers whomb so must the pineal gland be healthy to brake free if not one is subjected to those who govern the astral realms which is infact has a symbiotic relationship with earth. Anyway your welcome.
No worries as well re: publishing twice, you didn't miss anything, I just moderate comments because sometimes people want to write really awful things that don't contribute to anything positive/forward the dialogue and are just abusive. Thanks again.
Do not skimp through the music since its all about building up these people actually communicate with music because what it does is releasing particular emotions you don't have to understand it just feel it, every instrument does its part from the drum which in many cases acts like a trance conductor the loutar (guitar) which is extremely hard to master guitar is an important supplement as well as the singing in particular those from the females. TK
Thank you so much! I instinctively knew somehow that the music was indicative of telling a people's narrative and knew that I needed to include it. Learn the music, understand the rhythms, and you will have the narrative. It's very interesting. Especially about origins stories with native peoples, our actual galactic history as opposed to the official state narrative, etc etc. You can learn so much about history through music. The kind of history they don't teach you in school...
Hello Yeah history is written by the victors...I believe that god or our origin point is beyond this artificial construct its also called "spirit of truth" which has been kept away from us at all costs...no love nor loving god would device something as tape worms or programming which insists ALL beings to hunt and kill and it starts with the bacteria they to hunt and kill up to big predators shredding their pray...this system is all about worshipping death and we all consume what is once a living being regardless if its a plant or animal they both have consciousness and feel pain and the fear of death...Our gallactic brethren might not exist even when they hide behind their "non intervention if its true that there are millions upon millions civilizations bad or good then atleast a couple of thousands would ignore this "non intervention" and show them selves whether to aid or conquer this led me to believe that what religions as well as the new age tell us is a diversion not based on truth. When they speak of astral traveling which is infact lucid dreaming because when one is OBE-ing and tries to spy on his friends and tell them the next day what they did these friends never confirm because astral travel is not out of body but lucid dreaming which mimics your awake reality...The blueprint for life on this plane is corrupt i refuse to believe that a loving creator created all this suffering. But im being of topic.
Anyway...please let me know if you liked the music or which ones you liked the most.
That's so funny that you said "spirit of truth" as I am right now re-reading a Spirit of Ma'at (which means Spirit of Truth) article by Cal Garrison who based her article on things I talked about in previous interviews regarding the Satanic origins of the Church of Scientology. Ha! It's in this post somewhere: http://anyaisachannel.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/finally-watched-alara-blackwell-bases.html
wassup guys i see that u having a debate about my people i just wanna say a few things we are an African tribe and whats special about us is that we're a mix races we have white people like me and and those kids on the pictures I have a white skin and green eyes too we called chawia and kibayle or (les kabile) am from the chawia by the way and we have brown people called bni mzab and we have black people called twargh or the (blue man their skin tern blue in sun light) and those are only in algeria and we're not Scandinavians we lived in Africa for literally thousands of years anyway if u have questions I'll be happy to help hair's my Facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/lokman.vassili?fref=ts&__nodl
We are not Caucasian, where do you white people go around and claim everything? You tell a origin of a people by their language. Lets get something in perspective, light skin does not determine race. We have no genetic link to Scandinavia or europeans, this has been proven by dna. The only influence may be through the slave trade and the constant occupations of europeans. Our language is African. On the coast you have lighter Berbers because of the mixture go down south where the isolated tribes are and they are brown skin with my type of kinky hair. Blue eyes and green eyes are not european traits. The tuareg the oldest pf the berbers are the darkest we have our language thanks to them persevering it, they have the closest pure bloodline all tge other really white abd european looking ones are mixed with european and turkish blood. Read real history from us instead of white washed eurocentrics https://www.temehu.com/imazighen/berbers.htm
With respect, the suggestion is that the Amazigh are *not* European. That they are native North African. I'm not trying to "claim" anything. It's in the DNA. But I am not a genetic determinist. I am not a racialist. I am not a eugenicist. I don't think one race is more superior than another. But genetic history is fascinating as are origins, which remain a bit of a mystery as pertains to this group. In fact, the suggestion is that they aren't even from here- native Amazigh claim this, not me. Blessings, A-
You are wrong. I am amazigh 100% Chaouia from Algeria. My DNA proves my claim. I am 92% pure North African 4.5 Southern European 0.4% Middle Eastern 3% West African And yes our legends do speak of atlantis. We were never conquered as a people, the proof is in history and the age of our language which dates to pre dynastic times of Egypt. Atantis is in the sahara. It's in NorthWest Africa. All the greek myths came from our Gods and Goddesses. Lake Triton where Posideon is associated with and also father of Atlantis is in Tunisia, which is north North. The sahara was not always a desert and goes through peroids of lush greenery and large great lakes every 20,00 years because of the Earths natural shifting. Look up lost city of Sefae in Algeria. Notice the Atlas mountains are in North west africa. Atlantis gave way to Kemet (Ancient Egypt). Genetically we have very little admixture from Europeans and Arabs. Our language is African purely. Americans and europeans think africans are supposed to look one way, while all other people are allowed to have varying differences such as europeans and asians, even look at native Americans and Aztecs. We have always been a little light in skin since Egyptian times as pointed out by theScene from the tomb of Seti I, Dynasty XIX and the races of Man.
"The Egyptians divided the human race into four classes, namely the Egyptians, the A’mu (Semites), the Neh’esu (Nubians) and the Temeh’u (Temehu) in the country Tmh’ (Libyans). "
The only non indigenous to africa are the Semites. You need to do real research as well as dna and genetic research before you make wild claims about my people as if we are some extinct species.
I... would take issue with some of the things you are saying. And if you are "Southern European" that means you also have caucasian genetics. So I don't see where your anger or kind of incoherent in parts self-righteousness is coming from. I am not trying to define the Amazigh. And by the way, you're communicating with a Semite. Egyptians do not define the Semitic experience in Africa. Semites do. Semites have been in the region at least as long as your "Southern European" genetics have. Not trying to be in a pissing contest with you. But I am asking you to agree to disagree. Thanks!
Those people in the pictures are descendants of Nordic slaved brought to North Africa during the Trans-Atlantic Jihad. They are not the proper representation of Berber groups.
Genetically white? Nobody is genetically white or genetically black. Those are man-made categories nobody's actually in! Most humans are a mixture of genes from all over. Putting people in a black or white category is what's caused America so many problems: Don't bring the rest of the world into it!
Let me guess: You're one of those social justice warriors who say things like "I don't see color"- please read the post again. Having caucasian- I didn't say "white"- genetics does not preclude they have 100% caucasian genetics. But the fact that they do have them is interesting for a number of legitimate reasons that actually have very little to do with race. Please stop. Just stop. You are baiting. I published this comment because it's not offensive to me, but it does jump the gun and assume many things. You really need to check your head. I am personally not responsible for "bringing the rest of the world" into "what's caused America so many problems". Just read the post again. Thanks.
you are so delutionad spreading no sesnse , i just got dna test i'm 80% north african and no my skin is light tan my hair is dark , dark eyes most north africans have similar traits only small amount of them have those " white " traits can't we just love ourselves just the way we are , being white won't make you better it's nothing special , read more and educate yourself instead of posting no sense
Wow, people are really adamant that I am talking about race. This whole thing is not about race and more about our origins. I never said whites were better than anyone else. Although I will admit the original researcher for this, Robert- something or other- I can't remember his name- has turned out to possibly be racially motivated- in which case I can say I do not support him, the WHOLE POINT of this post was to explore the origins of the human species. Not the white race. My take on it is we are not who we say we are as a species, we do not know our origins, and we are a culture in amnesia as to the true origins of the species. MY take- and not Robert's, specifically, only using information to back up the POSSIBILITY that this take might be true, is that the Anunnaki are the originators of the human race and they have manipulated our genetic stock wholly. That we are tampered with in some way shape or form collectively and we were not allowed to let our genetic origins be fully expressed naturally, that it was taken and tampered with at some point to create the human genome we know now. Which is not natural, it is artificial. If we had been allowed to evolve on the timeline we naturally would have, we would have been an empathic race of beings, instead of the folly that passes for "empathic" now. We have been lied to. You included. Regardless of what you call yourself racially. I maintain that I do not speak on anyone else's behalf, I am speaking solely as an individual. I do not support ( I think his name is) Robert Sephyr's theory if it is racially biased or bigoted. What I am trying to ascertain is the origin of the human species, not how much or little melanin we have. Thought that was perfectly made clear from the outset, but people seem to be stuck on this point. Thanks.
I am saami and find it interesting the amazigh-saami genetical link go so far back, way back in prehistoric times. But ours is also a mixed people, we have a good portion siberian genetics too aswell as from the first settlers of Europe (who lived side by side with neanderthals) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1199377/
Recent DNA test has traced my father's side of family all the way from Aberdeenshire down through England ,France ,Spain to the amazigh centuries ago I have white skin blue eyes our surname is Clarke and family were tenant farmers in Aberdeenshire for more than 200 years.
Could be all three origins are true: Atlantis, Vandals and the Berber state slave trade/raids, that continued into the 19th century and kidnapped Europeans as far up as New England (the latter was one reason why France colonized Tunisia and Algeria etc). Vandal and modern North European origins afterall do not explain the Atlantean folklore. To explain the issue one needs to ascertain how far back the Atlantean origin story goes. The Germanic Vandal kingdom (partly in modern Tunisia) lasted from 435-534 AD, when it was reincorprated into the Roman (Byzantine) Empire by Count Belisaurius. It was from this kingdom, centered on the Roman city of Carthage, that the Vandals went on to sack Rome in 455. The fall of Atlantis should by the most credible accounts have taken place in approximately 9600 BC (11600 years ago). Did the Berbers mention their Atlantean origin before the coming of the Vandals?
I am amazigh,i have white skin and blue eyes ,but i can tell you that not all berbers have white skin and blue/green eyes ,most of them look white mideteranians .
ReplyDeleteHello! Thank you for your comment. It is obviously a traditional trait in some of the Amazigh people to have white skin and blue or green eyes, however the Amazigh are pan-ethnic and not just in Morocco- they are also in the Canary Islands, Algeria, Kabylia, and Mali, among other places. So lots of mixing is going on across a wide spectrum of places. Obviously not every Amazigh appears caucasian at first glance, but genetically they may all have caucasian genetics. Important to note!
DeleteJust so you know, the VANDALS, an ancient tribe of southern Scandinavian raiders that fought for years with the Byzantine (Eastern Roman) Empire, were eventually conquered by them and banished, whereupon many of the exiled fled and integrated with the Berbers. That would easily (and logically) explain the appearance of some Berbers which are incongruous with those of their fellow tribesmen.
ReplyDeleteIn short: a small number of these "white" Berbers are actually of mixed Scandinavian ancestry. Ta-da! 'Mystery' solved.
Well, that's a very clean and neat explanation, except the Amazigh (they don't call themselves Berbers- they call themselves the Amazigh, you are culturally glomming the term that anthropologists refer to them as, better to call them what THEY call themselves) don't say they come from Scandinavians. I think your "mystery" would be solved if they said "Oh, we come from Scandinavia" instead of "Oh, we come from Atlantis". They say they come from Atlanteans. Last I checked, there's no myth of Atlantis within Scandinavian culture, so that doesn't make sense. Don't you think if the Scandinavians did show up there they would be telling the foreigners they were from Sweden before they mixed the races a bit? Also, why would THE VANDALS only be mixing with one tribe of people instead of everyone all over the region? Just one group who are isolated? Doesn't make sense. Scandinavian genetics would be shown all over the geographic region, not just with the Amazingh. *Indiginous* genetics means they come inherently from the region- not Scandinavia. Genetics tests would show this right away. Except the point of the post is that they are implying that Scandinavian genetics are not showing up on the tests as where the caucasian genes of origin come from. They've been genetically testing the Amazigh for years- this is the first I've ever heard of Crusaders making one distinct tribe in North Africa white. I think it would have been mentioned by now and in the articles I am finding online.
DeleteOk, wait- I stand corrected in that they say some Amazigh do have Vandal blood- but that still doesn't explain why they say they are ancestors of Atlantis. And it still doesn't explain why they genetically are indigenous caucasian. This may be two separate ethic groups we are talking about with different genetics. Genetics tests will say where someone comes from...
DeleteYou are correct. Some of the white Berbers are descendants of the Vandals but most are descendants of Nordic Europeans captured and taken to North Africa during the European slave trade known as the "Atlantic Jihad". Their phenotype is not native to North Africa at all.
DeleteHere's a source supporting this theory:
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Kingdom#Conquest_by_the_Byzantine_Empire
Well now you've opened up MORE questions about alien ancestry here- this is fascinating, because the Saami creation myth says they are people from the stars who crashed their spaceship on earth and couldn't get back to where they came from- so this even makes the mystery deeper!!! http://saamiblog.blogspot.com/2007/12/prehistoric-genetic-link-of-amazigh-and.html The Saami, by the way, are genetically predisposed to be born without back molars- they by and large are missing the back four teeth. Hmmmmmm!!!
DeleteThe Saami are "extreme genetic outliers" according to science: http://www.cell.com/ajhg/abstract/S0002-9297(07)61892-8?cc=y= This just gets weirder and weirder...
DeleteUPDATE: 7/18/17: https://vigilantcitizen.com/hidden-knowledge/connection-between-sirius-and-human-history/
DeleteHello the music video that you posted is not for the most part "berber" music but arabic in nature i can tell since i am a "Riffian" from the Fif region. I my self have very light skin almost pale but brown eyes and black hair some of my family members have blond hair grey eyes and some have red hair. And the arabs are trying to destroy our culture for so long now....Amazigh means "free people" some say we have a link with old gaelic families and with the sami people from norway as well as with Atlantis and the amazonians... Morocco has the largest amazigh population algeria the second which are called "kabyle" all are being harrashed and discriminated by the arab governed governments. Even our language which is called "Tafinagh" is pretty much alien check google for "amazigh writing or tafinagh writing". If you want i can send you real amazigh music...
ReplyDeleteHello the music video that you posted is not for the most part "berber" music but arabic in nature i can tell since i am a "Riffian" from the Fif region. I my self have very light skin almost pale but brown eyes and black hair some of my family members have blond hair grey eyes and some have red hair. And the arabs are trying to destroy our culture for so long now....Amazigh means "free people" some say we have a link with old gaelic families and with the sami people from norway as well as with Atlantis and the amazonians... Morocco has the largest amazigh population algeria the second which are called "kabyle" all are being harrashed and discriminated by the arab governed governments. Even our language which is called "Tafinagh" is pretty much alien check google for "amazigh writing or tafinagh writing". If you want i can send you real amazigh music...
ReplyDeleteHi, thanks! I would love to hear real amazigh music. If you want to post links here, you are more than welcome. Was trying to invoke a genetic memory in people by posting music. I know that sounds weird but there's a method to my madness. Stuff doesn't come from nowhere. Thanks for your info.
DeleteJust so you know, there was an incredibly beautiful collection on Youtube when I originally posted this of supposedly real amazigh music, but it kept getting taken down for copyright violations. It really was my favorite, but it seems to have disappeared. I keep trying to post the closest approximation but this apparently is not it. Sorry. I hope you can post something here soon. Thanks again.
DeleteHello again, (sorry if this is published 2 times)
ReplyDeleteWell it took me some time to find them since they are classical amazigh music which become harder and harder to find. Whatever you do listen with your emotions what do you sense when listening to them? Take notice of the females singing. There are many more variations within the amazigh music but these are good starters let me know if you liked them its important that you take your time maybe perhaps with a glass of wine:):
AYAMARG AWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2gUut1GDSQ
Ourid amarg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fub3RlRwy0A
El Akri
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMlyoZScnTo
El Aakri chi (skip to 3:08 when it realy starts)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuZrxVL5OGg
Boutmezought " Adamzkh Aghribl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsOsw-xUVlg
Go to this site below and listen to numbers 2 and 4
http://www.amazighmusic.com/playlist.php?name=Hamid%20Almou&categorie=Atlas-Music
And here are the true writing of the amazigh people if you never seen them before:
http://www.morocco.com/forums/attachments/language-langue/27d1141778129-tifinagh-tamazight.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Test_unicode_tifinagh.png
I can see you like the occult, esoteric information as well as other intel considered "conspiracy" well if you just knew...most of the information is as i have come to realize after almost 2 decades that these are "gatekeepers" and its not what you think. One of the greatest lies is space....beyond this planet there is only darkness and stars and the sun will have no light...since this reality is a construct but im ahead of my self. The reason why they calcify the pineal gland is not what it seems since the pineal gland is connected with water just as a child is born within water inside the mothers whomb so must the pineal gland be healthy to brake free if not one is subjected to those who govern the astral realms which is infact has a symbiotic relationship with earth. Anyway your welcome.
No worries as well re: publishing twice, you didn't miss anything, I just moderate comments because sometimes people want to write really awful things that don't contribute to anything positive/forward the dialogue and are just abusive. Thanks again.
DeleteAnd ps:
ReplyDeleteDo not skimp through the music since its all about building up these people actually communicate with music because what it does is releasing particular emotions you don't have to understand it just feel it, every instrument does its part from the drum which in many cases acts like a trance conductor the loutar (guitar) which is extremely hard to master guitar is an important supplement as well as the singing in particular those from the females. TK
Thank you so much! I instinctively knew somehow that the music was indicative of telling a people's narrative and knew that I needed to include it. Learn the music, understand the rhythms, and you will have the narrative. It's very interesting. Especially about origins stories with native peoples, our actual galactic history as opposed to the official state narrative, etc etc. You can learn so much about history through music. The kind of history they don't teach you in school...
DeleteHello Yeah history is written by the victors...I believe that god or our origin point is beyond this artificial construct its also called "spirit of truth" which has been kept away from us at all costs...no love nor loving god would device something as tape worms or programming which insists ALL beings to hunt and kill and it starts with the bacteria they to hunt and kill up to big predators shredding their pray...this system is all about worshipping death and we all consume what is once a living being regardless if its a plant or animal they both have consciousness and feel pain and the fear of death...Our gallactic brethren might not exist even when they hide behind their "non intervention if its true that there are millions upon millions civilizations bad or good then atleast a couple of thousands would ignore this "non intervention" and show them selves whether to aid or conquer this led me to believe that what religions as well as the new age tell us is a diversion not based on truth. When they speak of astral traveling which is infact lucid dreaming because when one is OBE-ing and tries to spy on his friends and tell them the next day what they did these friends never confirm because astral travel is not out of body but lucid dreaming which mimics your awake reality...The blueprint for life on this plane is corrupt i refuse to believe that a loving creator created all this suffering. But im being of topic.
ReplyDeleteAnyway...please let me know if you liked the music or which ones you liked the most.
That's so funny that you said "spirit of truth" as I am right now re-reading a Spirit of Ma'at (which means Spirit of Truth) article by Cal Garrison who based her article on things I talked about in previous interviews regarding the Satanic origins of the Church of Scientology. Ha! It's in this post somewhere: http://anyaisachannel.blogspot.co.uk/2013/03/finally-watched-alara-blackwell-bases.html
Deletewassup guys i see that u having a debate about my people i just wanna say a few things we are an African tribe and whats special about us is that we're a mix races we have white people like me and and those kids on the pictures I have a white skin and green eyes too we called chawia and kibayle or (les kabile) am from the chawia by the way and we have brown people called bni mzab and we have black people called twargh or the (blue man their skin tern blue in sun light) and those are only in algeria and we're not Scandinavians we lived in Africa for literally thousands of years anyway if u have questions I'll be happy to help hair's my Facebook profile https://www.facebook.com/lokman.vassili?fref=ts&__nodl
ReplyDeleteThank you, Vassilli!
DeleteWe are not Caucasian, where do you white people go around and claim everything? You tell a origin of a people by their language. Lets get something in perspective, light skin does not determine race. We have no genetic link to Scandinavia or europeans, this has been proven by dna. The only influence may be through the slave trade and the constant occupations of europeans. Our language is African. On the coast you have lighter Berbers because of the mixture go down
ReplyDeletesouth where the isolated tribes are and they are brown skin with my type of kinky hair. Blue eyes and green eyes are not european traits. The tuareg the oldest pf the berbers are the darkest we have our language thanks to them persevering it, they have the closest pure bloodline all tge other really white abd european looking ones are mixed with european and turkish blood. Read real history from us instead of white washed eurocentrics https://www.temehu.com/imazighen/berbers.htm
With respect, the suggestion is that the Amazigh are *not* European. That they are native North African. I'm not trying to "claim" anything. It's in the DNA. But I am not a genetic determinist. I am not a racialist. I am not a eugenicist. I don't think one race is more superior than another. But genetic history is fascinating as are origins, which remain a bit of a mystery as pertains to this group. In fact, the suggestion is that they aren't even from here- native Amazigh claim this, not me. Blessings, A-
ReplyDeleteYou are wrong. I am amazigh 100% Chaouia from Algeria. My DNA proves my claim. I am
Delete92% pure North African
4.5 Southern European
0.4% Middle Eastern
3% West African
And yes our legends do speak of atlantis. We were never conquered as a people, the proof is in history and the age of our language which dates to pre dynastic times of Egypt. Atantis is in the sahara. It's in NorthWest Africa. All the greek myths came from our Gods and Goddesses. Lake Triton where Posideon is associated with and also father of Atlantis is in Tunisia, which is north North. The sahara was not always a desert and goes through peroids of lush greenery and large great lakes every 20,00 years because of the Earths natural shifting. Look up lost city of Sefae in Algeria. Notice the Atlas mountains are in North west africa. Atlantis gave way to Kemet (Ancient Egypt). Genetically we have very little admixture from Europeans and Arabs. Our language is African purely. Americans and europeans think africans are supposed to look one way, while all other people are allowed to have varying differences such as europeans and asians, even look at native Americans and Aztecs. We have always been a little light in skin since Egyptian times as pointed out by theScene from the tomb of Seti I, Dynasty XIX and the races of Man.
"The Egyptians divided the human race into four classes, namely the Egyptians, the A’mu (Semites), the Neh’esu (Nubians) and the Temeh’u (Temehu) in the country Tmh’ (Libyans). "
The only non indigenous to africa are the Semites. You need to do real research as well as dna and genetic research before you make wild claims about my people as if we are some extinct species.
I... would take issue with some of the things you are saying. And if you are "Southern European" that means you also have caucasian genetics. So I don't see where your anger or kind of incoherent in parts self-righteousness is coming from. I am not trying to define the Amazigh. And by the way, you're communicating with a Semite. Egyptians do not define the Semitic experience in Africa. Semites do. Semites have been in the region at least as long as your "Southern European" genetics have. Not trying to be in a pissing contest with you. But I am asking you to agree to disagree. Thanks!
DeleteThose people in the pictures are descendants of Nordic slaved brought to North Africa during the Trans-Atlantic Jihad. They are not the proper representation of Berber groups.
ReplyDeletePlease read my comments above about that ... thanks
DeleteThe second girl from the right isn't berber but a kalash (dardic indo-iranian people) from Pakistan
ReplyDeleteSorry to disappoint you, but you are incorrect- it looks like a flag of Pakistan, but is actually the flag of Algeria- in North Africa.
DeleteGenetically white? Nobody is genetically white or genetically black. Those are man-made categories nobody's actually in! Most humans are a mixture of genes from all over. Putting people in a black or white category is what's caused America so many problems: Don't bring the rest of the world into it!
ReplyDeleteLet me guess: You're one of those social justice warriors who say things like "I don't see color"- please read the post again. Having caucasian- I didn't say "white"- genetics does not preclude they have 100% caucasian genetics. But the fact that they do have them is interesting for a number of legitimate reasons that actually have very little to do with race. Please stop. Just stop. You are baiting. I published this comment because it's not offensive to me, but it does jump the gun and assume many things. You really need to check your head. I am personally not responsible for "bringing the rest of the world" into "what's caused America so many problems". Just read the post again. Thanks.
Deleteyou are so delutionad spreading no sesnse , i just got dna test i'm 80% north african and no my skin is light tan my hair is dark , dark eyes most north africans have similar traits only small amount of them have those " white " traits can't we just love ourselves just the way we are , being white won't make you better it's nothing special , read more and educate yourself instead of posting no sense
ReplyDeleteWow, people are really adamant that I am talking about race. This whole thing is not about race and more about our origins. I never said whites were better than anyone else. Although I will admit the original researcher for this, Robert- something or other- I can't remember his name- has turned out to possibly be racially motivated- in which case I can say I do not support him, the WHOLE POINT of this post was to explore the origins of the human species. Not the white race. My take on it is we are not who we say we are as a species, we do not know our origins, and we are a culture in amnesia as to the true origins of the species. MY take- and not Robert's, specifically, only using information to back up the POSSIBILITY that this take might be true, is that the Anunnaki are the originators of the human race and they have manipulated our genetic stock wholly. That we are tampered with in some way shape or form collectively and we were not allowed to let our genetic origins be fully expressed naturally, that it was taken and tampered with at some point to create the human genome we know now. Which is not natural, it is artificial. If we had been allowed to evolve on the timeline we naturally would have, we would have been an empathic race of beings, instead of the folly that passes for "empathic" now. We have been lied to. You included. Regardless of what you call yourself racially. I maintain that I do not speak on anyone else's behalf, I am speaking solely as an individual. I do not support ( I think his name is) Robert Sephyr's theory if it is racially biased or bigoted. What I am trying to ascertain is the origin of the human species, not how much or little melanin we have. Thought that was perfectly made clear from the outset, but people seem to be stuck on this point. Thanks.
DeleteIt would be nice to find the origins of man, the above comments are a beautiful display of how we wont & why.
ReplyDeleteI am saami and find it interesting the amazigh-saami genetical link go so far back, way back in prehistoric times. But ours is also a mixed people, we have a good portion siberian genetics too aswell as from the first settlers of Europe (who lived side by side with neanderthals) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1199377/
ReplyDeleteWhy you didnt put a song of my country algeria all the 3 son are Moroccan
ReplyDeleteRecent DNA test has traced my father's side of family all the way from Aberdeenshire down through England ,France ,Spain to the amazigh centuries ago I have white skin blue eyes our surname is Clarke and family were tenant farmers in Aberdeenshire for more than 200 years.
ReplyDeleteWow! Thanks for sharing.
DeleteCould be all three origins are true: Atlantis, Vandals and the Berber state slave trade/raids, that continued into the 19th century and kidnapped Europeans as far up as New England (the latter was one reason why France colonized Tunisia and Algeria etc). Vandal and modern North European origins afterall do not explain the Atlantean folklore.
ReplyDeleteTo explain the issue one needs to ascertain how far back the Atlantean origin story goes. The Germanic Vandal kingdom (partly in modern Tunisia) lasted from 435-534 AD, when it was reincorprated into the Roman (Byzantine) Empire by Count Belisaurius. It was from this kingdom, centered on the Roman city of Carthage, that the Vandals went on to sack Rome in 455.
The fall of Atlantis should by the most credible accounts have taken place in approximately 9600 BC (11600 years ago). Did the Berbers mention their Atlantean origin before the coming of the Vandals?